Jun 19 , 7:08 PM
Why More and More Countries Are Cutting Deals With China
by Ian Welsh
There is a tale I have heard, possibly apocryphal, of a USSR ambassador talking to a Pakistan leader in the eighties. His talk ran as follows: "The problem with the Americans is that things change. One day
they're your friends, the next day they aren't. You can't tell what
they will want from election to election. They're unreliable. I don't
know who will be in charge in Moscow in 15 years, but I tell you this,
no matter who they are the goals of Russian foreign policy then will be
the same as the goals of Russian foreign policy today. You can trust
us, not because we are altruistic, but because we aren't - we know what
our interests are, we are public about what they are, and we follow
them." What brought this to mind was this article on a speech by Chinese PM Wen Jiabao: Speaking at a news conference in Cairo at the start of a tour of seven African countries, Wen said China's foreign policy was based on mutual benefit, adding that his country would not interfere in matters such as human rights. Ouch. Now, see, this is completely credible coming from China. They don't care about the internal affairs of regimes that aren't in their immediate vicinity. The US and Europe... who knows, they might decide to invade you, or they might impose sanctions, or they might drag you or your ministers off to some court and imprison them for life. China - they do business, and as long as you keep to the deal, you're safe. A lot of regimes that have oil and other commodities are not exactly paragons of civil rights. To put it mildly. China says to them, "we can do business and we won't screw around with your internal affairs". The US and Europe say "you have to do things our way in order to do business with us." Which is more attractive? And be clear, this isn't just about human rights abuses. This is about not getting in bed with a country like the US that thinks it has a moral right to use armed force to get its way. You don't sup with devil, or make deals with the mafia, and think that you can ever say "well, that's it, we won't be dealing together any more". So it's not just various African nations falling into China's orbit - it's countries like Iran, which are out of favour with the US. China can't offer technology and weapons on the level that the West can, but it can offer good enough technology and weapons for most purposes. And the only strings they come attached to are the strings that are explicit - pay your bills, and keep shipping China whatever you promised her. Permalink by Ian Welsh
Jun 19 , 7:08 PM Comments
The apparent fickleness of American policy has a simple source: Americans never, ever speak honestly about their strategic goals and objectives--not just politicians, but everybody. This leads to a pretty bizarre public discourse and has as one result an inability to maintain consistency in international relations. Posted by: Gaianne at June 20, 2006 12:10 AMWell, but the argument has a whiff of applauding the nazis for making the trains run on time. And similar reasoning can be applied to the "reliability" of large corporations in producing "shareholder value" -- it is widely recognized, if not put in writing, that their charter is to provide good profits for their executives, their henchmen, and the owners, is it not, and corporate representations about "work-life balance" do roughly relate to its realities as much as Chinese and previous Eastern European representations about internal democracy. So why would anybody blast them for their behavior? The sad thing is that the US nowadays has a worse human rights and environmental record than China does. China will get more and more nations in its orbit, simply because they are becoming a superpower, and the US leadership has demonstrated that it is insane. Hell if I had to choose between living in a US dominated by Pat Robertson and his ilk, and a US dominated by China, I'm not sure which even I would prefer. Posted by: Kurt at June 20, 2006 11:33 AMAh
yes, those ardent friends of justice and liberty, China and Russia, who
have won the hearts and minds of the Iranian and African peoples.
Thusly, we on the left prepare for the November election. The world is as it is, not as we would have it be. China may not be nice - but they appear to be trustworthy to other nations, and the US does not. Transparency is important, and much more than the US, the Chinese are straitforward about what they want from other nations. You may like it, you may not, but you know where you stand. The US, on the other hand, asks Hamas to participate in the Palestinian elections, then when they get elected cuts off all aid, the end result of which is to kill a lot of Palestinians. Of course they hate you. And then China steps in and gives them aid. Decide where you stand. Posted by: Ian Welsh at June 20, 2006 01:59 PMPost a comment
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